After tapering off for a few months SMI is reporting that July was vibrant again for digital advertising. Digital-media advertising was up 19% in July. Social media, search and internet radio were among digitals biggest performers. And despite what we’ve heard from many of the public radio companies that reported flat pacings in Q3, SMI says broadcast radio jumped 22% in July ad revenue, with automotive advertising growing 41%.
Social media grew 34%, while internet radio was up 31% and search added 21%. Standard Media Index gets its data from major media agencies.
How To Sell Without The Numbers
How To Sell Without The Numbers
August 24, 2017
This is not a negative story about Nielsen. Nielsen is the
ratings system, the currency radio uses and advertising agencies and local
businesses rely on to make purchases and funnel millions and millions of
dollars into the radio industry. Many would argue that since Nielsen purchased
Arbitron, the bigger company is making more of an effort to improve its product
for the industry. But those discussions are for another day.
The reality in radio is that not everyone has ratings. Some
companies don’t subscribe to the ratings, for any number of reasons, and make
the decision to sell without them.
The downside of not having numbers to sell is obvious: Your
competitors will most likely have them. And since you don’t subscribe, they may
not list you in a ranker. The upside is that declining to subscribe can save
you a lot of money — money you might decide to put into sales training.
Our mission here is to provide information that will help
everyone in the business succeed. This piece will be helpful to those who, for
whatever reason, are not using Nielsen’s product to sell. Max Media in Virginia
Beach had been using Nielsen (and Arbitron) for about a decade before General
Manager Dave Paulus chose not to renew the contract with the ratings firm. It’s
been one year since Paulus made that decision, so we reached out to him to see
exactly how things are going selling without the numbers.
RADIO INK: WHEN DID YOU FIRST DECIDE NOT TO RENEW THE RATINGS,
AND WHAT WENT INTO YOUR THINKING AS YOU GOT CLOSER TO THE CONTRACT ENDING?
Paulus: We had been talking about the entire relationship of our Nielsen partnership for years. As we got closer to our renewal time, the biggest concern and question we had was “Is the ROI from this significant cost paying off for us as a station group?”
Paulus: We had been talking about the entire relationship of our Nielsen partnership for years. As we got closer to our renewal time, the biggest concern and question we had was “Is the ROI from this significant cost paying off for us as a station group?”
We also operate in a market, Norfolk-Virginia Beach, that
already had a non-subscriber, and frankly, the top three stations in this
market seem to always be the top three stations, so there really wasn’t much
changing of the layout of stations from month to month.
I’ll be totally honest, this decision was one of the toughest
I’ve ever made as a GM, and caused me a lot of sleepless nights. I spoke at
length to our sales leadership team, then our ownership group, and we all
agreed it was time to move forward and see what life would be like without it.
RADIO INK: HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO SELL WITHOUT THOSE NUMBERS?Paulus:
It can be challenging, without question. In a way, you’re really
flying the plane on instruments and have to depend on a lot of things that you
can’t control externally. That being said, at the time we left Nielsen (and I
would assume the circumstances are similar now), most all the stations in the
market were within two or three tenths of a ratings point of each other — the
congestion was intense.
At the end of the day, we speak to the quality of our products,
the unique selling propositions we offer, and the confidence we have in our
products to perform well. Since the group isn’t “delisted,” subscribing clients
can see where we are, and they can decide if the combination of those factors,
as well as our ratings position, allows us consideration to be part of their
marketing mix.
RADIO INK: WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES TO SELLING WITHOUT THEM?Paulus:
Well, there are advantages, actually. Our new business
development, both direct and agency, is through the roof, as is our digital
revenue development. We have some category initiatives, and we’re doing very
well in those. As crazy as this may sound, I don’t miss the distraction of
them at all. That PPM “fourth day” just comes and goes, and some days, I don’t
even recall it.
No more PD conversations about the one meter that moved our
group from fifth to 10th, and with the sellers, a 45-minute conversation about
a $10 rate adjustment because our “29- book average” is showing us down a tenth
of a point. You kind of get back to basics, and while we miss having the
knowledge at our fingertips at times, there are benefits as well.
RADIO INK: DID YOU HAVE TO RETRAIN YOUR SELLERS?
Paulus: I’m immensely proud of our sales leadership team and our sellers. They accepted this was a business decision we needed to make for our long-term survival within a system we felt was much challenged.
Paulus: I’m immensely proud of our sales leadership team and our sellers. They accepted this was a business decision we needed to make for our long-term survival within a system we felt was much challenged.
There really wasn’t a lot of retraining to do. We had gotten in
front of this decision with them so much, as well as with the marketplace, that
when that day finally occurred that the computers didn’t have the ratings
anymore, we and they just moved along. I committed to the sellers that I’d give
them as many tools as possible and market the stations hard. I feel like I’ve
lived up to that promise.
RADIO INK: DID YOU HAVE TO RETRAIN YOUR ADVERTISERS?
Paulus: As I mentioned earlier, it helped us that there was another non-subscriber in the marketplace that had been a non-subscriber for multiple years, so many of the advertisers and agencies that we shared were already used to one group not having Nielsen availability. That certainly helped this decision and our ability to execute it.
Paulus: As I mentioned earlier, it helped us that there was another non-subscriber in the marketplace that had been a non-subscriber for multiple years, so many of the advertisers and agencies that we shared were already used to one group not having Nielsen availability. That certainly helped this decision and our ability to execute it.
RADIO INK: DID YOU HAVE ANY SALESPEOPLE THAT JUST COULDN’T SELL
WITHOUT THEM?
Paulus: Not at all. Every single seller, including the most tenured, handled the transition very well. Not every day is a joy without the numbers, and believe me, we’ve had some “moments,” but overall they’ve adjusted very well.
Paulus: Not at all. Every single seller, including the most tenured, handled the transition very well. Not every day is a joy without the numbers, and believe me, we’ve had some “moments,” but overall they’ve adjusted very well.
RADIO INK: DID YOUR RADIO COMPETITORS GO ON THE ATTACK?
Paulus: Not really (at least to my knowledge). I know there’s some competitors that don’t include non-subscribers in rankers and market layouts, and as crazy as it may sound, I actually understand that. When I was a subscriber and it came to listing a non-subscriber, I chose not to do that as well.
Paulus: Not really (at least to my knowledge). I know there’s some competitors that don’t include non-subscribers in rankers and market layouts, and as crazy as it may sound, I actually understand that. When I was a subscriber and it came to listing a non-subscriber, I chose not to do that as well.
I didn’t feel like it was my responsibility to list a
non-subscriber’s numbers, as long as I clearly mentioned that this was not a
complete listing of stations and that there were nonsubscribers in the
marketplace. (So the client had a clear understanding of the marketplace.)
I can’t be hypocritical now that I’m not a subscriber, as long
as the stations state and the client is clear that there are non-subscribers in
the marketplace. It’s much easier here, as 40 percent of the groups don’t
subscribe and almost half the stations in the market won’t be included.
RADIO INK: HAVE YOU CONSIDERED RENEWING WITH NIELSEN?
Paulus: What are the advantages to having them? I think about it
all the time, but there’s been nothing to make me change my direction at this
time. I have a lot of friends within that company, and I have respect for what
they do. I just can’t make a good enough ROI argument to bring it back.
That doesn’t mean I won’t in the future, but as of right now,
that’s where I stand. The biggest advantage to having them is a clearer outlook
on the marketplace.
RADIO INK: HOW DO YOU BONUS PROGRAMMING EMPLOYEES? TYPICALLY
THAT IS RATINGS-RELATED.
Paulus: Very important element here: Anyone who had a Nielsen-related bonus plan was contacted and told that would be removed from their compensation plan. However, it’s certainly not fair (nor motivational) to just “take that money away,” so in most cases, I met with the talent directly and we worked out a digital, social, blog, podcasting, video, etc., bonus structure that allowed them to make similar, if not even more, bonus money.
Paulus: Very important element here: Anyone who had a Nielsen-related bonus plan was contacted and told that would be removed from their compensation plan. However, it’s certainly not fair (nor motivational) to just “take that money away,” so in most cases, I met with the talent directly and we worked out a digital, social, blog, podcasting, video, etc., bonus structure that allowed them to make similar, if not even more, bonus money.
Frankly, they loved it, as they
finally felt like they were in control of the bonus opportunities much more
than they were under the older system — and weren’t as reliant on some
five-meter family in Poquoson to wake up in the right headspace.
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